January 23, 2022: Fallen State

[Z6IIAB]

while I do agree it looks like clowns have take over power in the world... I'm a little skeevy by that alegory continuing to be used bc of this: "Clown World (emojified as ), also known as Honkler, Heil Honkler or Honk Honkler is an alt-right, neo-Nazi propaganda meme and dog whistle.[1] The "Honkler" image first appeared on 4chan in February 2019. Clown World and Honkler have been utilized by the alt-right effort to obfuscate racism and hate with seemingly innocuous memes in the form of mockery toward postmodernism."

while I do agree postmordenism should be mocked, it should be because it's actually promoting homophobic, misogynistic and also racist agendas, not the other way around lol.
also, still thinking the efforts of health institutions to contain the pandemic is some sort of big corp conspiracy has never been funny or clever.

[Russly]

Yeah homeboy got homework to do there. It's as if we've gone full circle and the tastelessness of his current work is as tasteless as the early stuff. Perhaps it's a necessary evil to experiment in order to see where the forum is at with a given arc. Guaranteed the arc length increase over the years is a tipoff as to how his buffer system works....

I will note I saw somewhere a line about how corona is not the flu and that's true, though it undermines the part where the flu has taken far more lives in its long history than corona has in its short time here. I'm not too concerned about the current arcs mostly because on some level they still clearly identify serious plot developments he's had in mind for a while.

-Russly

[Z6IIAB]

Yeah homeboy got homework to do there. It's as if we've gone full circle and the tastelessness of his current work is as tasteless as the early stuff. Perhaps it's a necessary evil to experiment in order to see where the forum is at with a given arc. Guaranteed the arc length increase over the years is a tipoff as to how his buffer system works....

I will note I saw somewhere a line about how corona is not the flu and that's true, though it undermines the part where the flu has taken far more lives in its long history than corona has in its short time here. I'm not too concerned about the current arcs mostly because on some level they still clearly identify serious plot developments he's had in mind for a while.

-Russly

Yeah. I don't really know if Tat is indeed referencing the "clown world" expression, thought, it's just what I interpreted. Sure wish he would come here clarify it but y'know, he can do whatever he wants, it's his comic and his forum, we're just using it.

I'm usually quite good at interpreting subtleties - especially regarding sinfest bc I've been reading this for what now? 15 years? - but sometimes, as good as one can be at following patterns, things change and that's no longer what the author meant so... what are you gonna do about it? I still agree with the radical feminist stance sinfest has assumed, but this antivax one, which seems to be merging with some right-wing/alt-right positions(??? tho, like i said, Idk if that's the case) is completly misguided at best and I'll keep on not standing for it. I'm glad to know I'm not alone on that here, but then again, most people still here are pretty reasonable, so it's not a surprise ^^

[grabachair]

I think you're reading the 'Honkler' thing into the Woker.

Tat's usage of the Woker is the version of the Joker from the classic comic "The Killing Joke" where the Joker represents a raw desire to destroy because he thinks the whole world is a joke. This seems to stack up with the absurdist reality / allegory he has been building about corporations controlling thought and action; the Killing Joke's version of the Joker would be an appropriate king of Sinfest universe.

It's a good analogy for the cult of wokeness that is pretty straighforward without looking through 4chan for fringe alternatives.

[Z6IIAB]

I think you're reading the 'Honkler' thing into the Woker.

Tat's usage of the Woker is the version of the Joker from the classic comic "The Killing Joke" where the Joker represents a raw desire to destroy because he thinks the whole world is a joke. This seems to stack up with the absurdist reality / allegory he has been building about corporations controlling thought and action; the Killing Joke's version of the Joker would be an appropriate king of Sinfest universe.

It's a good analogy for the cult of wokeness that is pretty straighforward without looking through 4chan for fringe alternatives.

I wasn't looking throught anything for fringe alternatives, it's just my initial interpretation. I do hope yours is right, tho'. That or something other. I interpreted as the honkler like you put it, bc tat also made a previous comicstrip in sinfest with a series of clowns being shown as the "runners" of the world, not just that one that, yes, does look like the Joker.

[Russly]

Kind of like the original version of Xanthe? Any idea which strip?

-Russly

[Z6IIAB]

Kind of like the original version of Xanthe?

that's not what I meant at all.

Any idea which strip?

-Russly

found it: https://sinfest.xyz/view.php?date=2021-05-15

also this: https://sinfest.xyz/view.php?date=2021-06-15

and you can find more if you search key words: https://sinfest.xyz/comicdb.php?query=clown+world tho searching only for the word "clown" brings out more results